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PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 2:58 pm 
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I'll be building up a new bike within the next month (yay!). Initially, it will be a 3x10 setup because that's what I can scrounge together from my current bike and parts bin.

My first MTB was a 3x8 configuration. Because I felt the gearing was redundant, and I didn't need the extreme high and low gears, I converted it to a 1x8.

My 8spd derailleur eventually died and I moved up to 1x10 (30tx10-36t). There are times when I wish I could gear a little higher and a little lower. But, not to the extreme of a 3x10 setup.

Because of this, I've been considering an eventual upgrade to a 2x10 setup. In theory it would give me the range I want without all the redundant gear ratios. I do wonder if I'll be switching the front derailleur fairly often (absence of a "middle" 30-32t ring).

If you converted from a 3x or 1x setup to 2x, what were your reasons for doing so?

Do you find that you're shifting the front derailleur fairly often?

I'm liking the idea of an XX1 drivetrain (32tx10-42t). But, I don't have $1,000 to drop on parts these days. :D

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I honestly don't see the need for anything more than 1x10 here in TX. Some climbs are steep but due to the lack of loooong sustained climbs I would think 10 gears is plenty.

I am a bit bias since I ride a ss. I did have a 3x8 that I rode for 5 years though. Also you may save a little weight with a 1xsetup. Just my $.02.

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2x9 or 2x10 is the biggest PITA of them all to setup right in my experience because you will want each chain ring to work with a bigger range of sprockets on the cassette compared to 3x10. I would try to live with a 1x setup, 32x11-36 should give you a pretty good range of gear ratios for almost everything. If you need faster ratios, man up and go with a 34 or 36 chain ring! :lol:


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I think we are trying to say man up. I think.

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big meanies.

marp, just leave some overlap between the upper and lower rings. i know it sort of defeats the purpose, but i think you can get by with 16 different gears on a 2x10. :)


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I ran out of cans of "whoop-ass" about ten years ago. Now my supply of "man up" is dwindling. :lol:

Then, I have days like today. I rode my SS at lunch yesterday and hauled ass (for me). And, I take my SS out again today and do the same thing. Maybe I'll just move the 1x10 over as-is. I can always tweak it one way or another later on.

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I switched from 1×9 to 2×6. Gear redundancy is moot, I prefer the better chain line and the ability to downshift rapidly with a single wide ratio shift. A front derailer simply works better for down shifting under load as the chain doesn't need to climb the cogs, not that shifting under load is ideal but when you get into trouble this can get you out quicker. Also there is no need for a chain guide.


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marpilli wrote:
I ran out of cans of "whoop-ass" about ten years ago. Now my supply of "man up" is dwindling.


Now that's sig-worthy.

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random walk wrote:
marpilli wrote:
I ran out of cans of "whoop-ass" about ten years ago. Now my supply of "man up" is dwindling.


Now that's sig-worthy.

I double-dog-dare you to put it in your sig on empty beer and link it back to my post here. ;)

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Shibi went from 3x10 to 2x10.

Simpler, easier... and because the kung-fu is stronger that way.

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What you're really looking for, would be a 1x10 setup, with a custom 40t in the rear, and a 34 in the front end.

......no? ;)


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Yes, got an extra 40t cassette cog laying around? ;)

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Being the prime hack you are, I'm surprised you haven't bolted a 40T chainring on to a cassette yet?
It's been done with success before.

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marpilli wrote:
Yes, got an extra 40t cassette cog laying around? ;)


I have the 25-29 portion of the General Lee conversion and a new pg-1070 cassette. Buy the 34-40 part of the GL conversion from the guys in Spain and I'll give you the rest.


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Jon Richard wrote:
marpilli wrote:
Yes, got an extra 40t cassette cog laying around? ;)


I have the 25-29 portion of the General Lee conversion and a new pg-1070 cassette. Buy the 34-40 part of the GL conversion from the guys in Spain and I'll give you the rest.

From what site did you order it? My google-fu is failing me... :(

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marpilli wrote:
From what site did you order it? My google-fu is failing me... :(


This is the guy I bought from:
http://myworld.ebay.com/mop18795?_trksid=p2047675.l2559

This is his Paypal address:
jorgesimoes@ymail.com

And this is another one of his listings for the General Lee kit:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/General-Lee-11- ... d=ViewItem

I originally messaged him through Epay to ask if he could sell just the 25-29 sprocket unit (I have two now thanks to Jorge). He made it happen and we worked the transaction outside of the bay to save him a little on the charges. Great communication and really went the distance for me. Give him a shout.

I'll gladly give the other one to Shibiwan or Magura for prototyping sorta like donating to science. :ugeek:


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Jon Richard wrote:

I'll gladly give the other one to Shibiwan or Magura for prototyping sorta like donating to science. :ugeek:


Thanks for the offer.
I'll have to turn it down though, as I just started up another project yesterday (carbon lowers for the fork), so better let S. have a go.
At least then he will be the one, who don't get it done :D


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Jon Richard wrote:
marpilli wrote:
From what site did you order it? My google-fu is failing me... :(


This is the guy I bought from:
http://myworld.ebay.com/mop18795?_trksid=p2047675.l2559

This is his Paypal address:
jorgesimoes@ymail.com

And this is another one of his listings for the General Lee kit:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/General-Lee-11- ... d=ViewItem

I originally messaged him through Epay to ask if he could sell just the 25-29 sprocket unit (I have two now thanks to Jorge). He made it happen and we worked the transaction outside of the bay to save him a little on the charges. Great communication and really went the distance for me. Give him a shout.

I'll gladly give the other one to Shibiwan or Magura for prototyping sorta like donating to science. :ugeek:

Thank you. At about $200 it might be cheaper (or a better investment) to buy a used set of X9/X0 cranks and a smaller spiderless chainring. :think:

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marpilli wrote:
Thank you. At about $200 it might be cheaper (or a better investment) to buy a used set of X9/X0 cranks and a smaller spiderless chainring. :think:


Ding ding ding ding! Or X7 or AKA or S1400, they are all the same as X9. But some of the new ones are not spiderless any more.


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Busy working on this right now.... (driveshaft flex disc)
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If you send it to me, it will be a little while before I can get to it.

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Not looking very flexy.


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Let me throw it at your head and see.

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