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PostPosted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 12:45 pm 
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I am curious to hear form those of you with saddle time on at least 29 inch wheels. I have 26ers. I have a 700c croos and a coupe roadies. I hvae not spet much time on a 29er at all, but is it really better? What I remember is the slower steering. I ride Small to medium frames and I have not ever felt that they lacked a lot in rolling performance. When you couple that with the geometry issue with a small frame and 29" tires, I have not felt the need to switch. Just curious how this seems to feel to different people. 650b is so new I expect to hear very little.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 12:57 pm 
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Easy answer - try to ride a few bikes of each wheel size on your trails and decide what fits you the best.
I like my 650b conversions but I am not going to ram them down other peoples' throats. There is no universal "better" and no argument to be won.
Mr. Magura likes his 24" bikes the best btw., perhaps we should add them to the mix? ;)


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 1:21 pm 
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It all depends if you aim to win the world cup, or ride to have fun.

If you aim to win the world cup, odds are that you have a sponsor that defines that sort of thing for you.
If you ride to have fun, I find that 24" wheels are where it's at. They allow for bigger tires, which offers more traction and comfort, without turning too heavy to be agile.
24" wheels are also a lot stronger than 26", let alone 29". This allows for a very reliable wheel, even if my skills are not quite up there with the world cup riders.

On top of that, smaller wheels makes for a more challenging ride, as even relatively small obstacles needs attention, meaning that I can have more fun on the trails available local to me.
I ride exclusively to have fun, and don't compete at all. I don't care how fast or slow I am, and don't aim to impress anybody.

Lately I have even taken my 20" mod trial bike out on the trails, which has proven to be fine entertainment.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 1:30 pm 
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I have a 26 and a 29er. Both are fun for different reasons. For my Midwest location, a 29er is great.


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My 29 and my 26 feel very different, but then again they have different geometries, one is a geared alu hardtail while the other is a steel, rigid singlespeed, different weight, different brakes, different saddles but it could also be down to the wheels having slightly different sizes, who knows?

I honestly think that you get more of a difference by changing to a different tire pattern than making the switch from 26 to 29 or the other way.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 4:28 pm 
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Here's an article I wrote about this exact topic, since I've had saddle time on all 3 sizes. http://www.mtbdeals.com/26-vs-29-vs-27-5-650b/
I hope it helps you understand the differences.


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I recon 27.5 sounds like the perfect wheel size, im a 26 man, 29 just seem a bit big, i can totally see the reasoning behind a 27.5, im actually thinking about grabbing some for my reign, i heard they fit.


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Sslikesnake wrote:
Here's an article I wrote about this exact topic, since I've had saddle time on all 3 sizes. http://www.mtbdeals.com/26-vs-29-vs-27-5-650b/
I hope it helps you understand the differences.


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Nice article.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 5:00 pm 
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It looks like 650b is getting some traction in downhill applications:

http://www.scintense.com/exciting-lewis ... e-m9-650b/
http://www.scintense.com/first-win-in-2013/


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 5:44 pm 
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Sslikesnake wrote:
Here's an article I wrote about this exact topic, since I've had saddle time on all 3 sizes. http://www.mtbdeals.com/26-vs-29-vs-27-5-650b/
I hope it helps you understand the differences.


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So does that mean that 650b is the Holy Grail of mountain bike wheel sizes?
I really don’t think so.
I really believe it’s personal preference based on your local trails and riding style.
Best way to find out for sure?

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Sslikesnake wrote:
Here's an article I wrote about this exact topic, since I've had saddle time on all 3 sizes. http://www.mtbdeals.com/26-vs-29-vs-27-5-650b/
I hope it helps you understand the differences.


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Great article - wanna write for HK? Your stuff will be articles on the main HK site

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 13, 2013 1:46 am 
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Shibiwan wrote:
Sslikesnake wrote:
Here's an article I wrote about this exact topic, since I've had saddle time on all 3 sizes. http://www.mtbdeals.com/26-vs-29-vs-27-5-650b/
I hope it helps you understand the differences.


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Great article - wanna write for HK? Your stuff will be articles on the main HK site

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Does it include free schwag? ;) If so, I'm in.


j/p--pm me what you've got in mind.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 13, 2013 2:11 am 
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Now this is funny



http://www.chopmtb.com/2013/03/12/are-you-tempted-by-a-29er-you-will-be-after-watching-this/


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 13, 2013 2:25 am 
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Sslikesnake wrote:
Shibiwan wrote:
Sslikesnake wrote:
Here's an article I wrote about this exact topic, since I've had saddle time on all 3 sizes. http://www.mtbdeals.com/26-vs-29-vs-27-5-650b/
I hope it helps you understand the differences.


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Great article - wanna write for HK? Your stuff will be articles on the main HK site

-S

Does it include free schwag? ;) If so, I'm in.


j/p--pm me what you've got in mind.


I can give you some free HK stickers on Friday. 8-)

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 13, 2013 2:27 am 
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Another worth read about this....topic....

http://www.pinkbike.com/news/26-vs-275- ... heels.html


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marpilli wrote:
Sslikesnake wrote:
Shibiwan wrote:
Sslikesnake wrote:
Here's an article I wrote about this exact topic, since I've had saddle time on all 3 sizes. http://www.mtbdeals.com/26-vs-29-vs-27-5-650b/
I hope it helps you understand the differences.


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Great article - wanna write for HK? Your stuff will be articles on the main HK site

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Does it include free schwag? ;) If so, I'm in.


j/p--pm me what you've got in mind.


I can give you some free HK stickers on Friday. 8-)


That, plus the free HK branded top caps that I'm working on..... and all contributors here will be on the HK insider track for new parts we're working on.

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I had the good fortune to own two almost identical bikes in succession, one a 26'er and the other a 29er. Both were entry-level hardtails and I rode them both extensively on the same trails. I feel I was able to come up with an objective comparison. My conclusion is this:

They each have their advantages and disadvantages. Those are all the things you've heard about them. You'll need to put some saddle-time on all of them to decide for yourself if a 26, 27.5 or 29" is right for you.

Glad I could clear things up for you. :mrgreen:

Me? I prefer 29" wheels & platform pedals. Dogs over cats, lager over ale, curvey over thin women, smart over stupid. Thanks to all those who disagree with me. More for me!


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 13, 2013 4:14 am 
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Shibiwan wrote:

That, plus the free HK branded top caps that I'm working on..... and all contributors here will be on the HK insider track for new parts we're working on.

-S

I started writing a couple of articles. Then I got really busy moving and dodging bullets & stuff. Hopefully things will calm down soon.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 13, 2013 9:00 pm 
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having ridden both, i'll give my opinion.

what i liked about 26: better size options for somebody small. often a lighter bike (unless you spend big bucks on a 29). easier to lift the front wheel. steers quicker in tight stuff. Basically, if you like to flick around the front end, whether lifting it, or hopping it, i think 26 is good. Also tends to accept more travel.

what i like about 29: higher front end. i fear being endo prone, so a higher front end makes me feel safer and more stable on descents. Yes, rollover is improved, but not massive like people make it out to be; you still have to work. You sit more "in" the bike, rather than perched on top, so center of gravity feels lower, and the bike feels more stable overall. Better traction because of the bigger tire patch. I can climb better on my current 29 bike because of traction, despite the 1.5 lb heavier weight.

i currently love my Trance 29, but its a real struggle to find a 9er to fit somebody my size. If they suddenly stopped making the trance in my size, and i needed a new bike, i'd have to get something very similar to that bike if it exists, or possibly go 650b. I tend to like the bigger wheels for the stability. i've never been good at wheelies or flicking the bike around, so that benefit is lost on me on smaller wheels.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 4:48 am 
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Nicole the most comparable bike to yours would be the Trek Lush 29 SL in size 14.


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PostPosted: Wed May 08, 2013 3:22 am 
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Here's what I think. I think there are a lot of 26 inch XC frames and forks out there and 29ers have an advantage in a lot of XC scenarios. So, If you want 80% of the advantages of a 29er with minimal capital outlay, upgrade your bike to a 650b.

Buying a 650b bike doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me unless it's a trail bike, but, at that point, again, you could probably do the conversion for 1/3 the cost of a new bike.

Plus, you could run 11/36 x 32 with a 650b wheel set and save money, weight and hassle.


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PostPosted: Wed May 08, 2013 3:51 am 
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Wmac wrote:
Plus, you could run 11/36 x 32 with a 650b wheel set and save money, weight and hassle.


That is what I do with my Mojo HD. :thumbup: Everyone who ever tried my bike loved it. (except for Nicole who is too small and could not reach the pedals)


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