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PostPosted: Mon Apr 19, 2021 10:17 pm 
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That sort of thing actually happens more often than you guys hear about. Once in a while, the report makes the news and then the whole world knows. I'm telling you, the San Gabes are MEAN!!!


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Agreed Ray, horrible wildflower season here this Spring. Lots of places look "dead". Just got back from the high desert and it looks like it's locked in the grip of Winter even though it was in the 80s with warm nights while we were there. I did catch a gorgeous Great Basins Gopher snake up there though. Enjoy the pics!


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Looks like a nice adventure Hawg.


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Hawg, choking the snake?.......... :P

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Hawg, choking the snake?.......... :P


LOL. Wrong snake. :lol:


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Sure.......... :naughty:

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Hawgzilla wrote:
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Hawg, choking the snake?.......... :P


LOL. Wrong snake. :lol:


what snake?


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Mustela wrote:
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Hawg, choking the snake?.......... :P


LOL. Wrong snake. :lol:


what snake?


Look up a few posts where i shared some pics


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Hawg is our resident snake handling expert, Mustela. I think he even goes to a church that does it.

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Hawgzilla wrote:
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Hawg, choking the snake?.......... :P


LOL. Wrong snake. :lol:


what snake?


Look up a few posts where i shared some pics


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Finally back on the FEX! I met the guys this morning for a trek up the backside of Mt Lukens to reach the towers and it's stellar view of Greater Los Angeles. The climb up was pretty good but my riding less the past few weeks has taken it's toll on my endurance level to a degree. I took it easy coming back down. Wanted to avoid getting dusted by the guys ahead of me plus I just felt like cruisin'. We didn't see anyone at all on the way up and maybe one or two hikers on the way back down. It's getting quiet again in the San Gabes on weekdays, the way we like it to be! Ended up with 13.64 miles and 2333' gain.

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Nice view's........... 8-)

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Love that downhill, you definitely earn it climbing up. Great vid Hawg, glad you’re back at filming and sharing here. :)


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Yes, that's quite a bit of climbing there, H. Well done! :handgestures-thumbup:

EDIT: Just watched your video, H. Very nice cruising pace on the DH. Thatt gives me lots of time to take in the trail, and all the surrounding sights. That's my kind of decent right there. And that cloudless sky.....LA has certainly gotten the air cleared up !
Hey, just out of curiosity, which Puma claims that territory? I know they pay lots of attention to the Pumas, and cougars, up your way!

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Yes, that's quite a bit of climbing there, H. Well done! :handgestures-thumbup:

EDIT: Just watched your video, H. Very nice cruising pace on the DH. Thatt gives me lots of time to take in the trail, and all the surrounding sights. That's my kind of decent right there. And that cloudless sky.....LA has certainly gotten the air cleared up !
Hey, just out of curiosity, which Puma claims that territory? I know they pay lots of attention to the Pumas, and cougars, up your way!


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DIRTJUNKIE wrote:
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Yes, that's quite a bit of climbing there, H. Well done! :handgestures-thumbup:

EDIT: Just watched your video, H. Very nice cruising pace on the DH. Thatt gives me lots of time to take in the trail, and all the surrounding sights. That's my kind of decent right there. And that cloudless sky.....LA has certainly gotten the air cleared up !
Hey, just out of curiosity, which Puma claims that territory? I know they pay lots of attention to the Pumas, and cougars, up your way!


LOL, DJ!

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Ray Dolor wrote:
Yes, that's quite a bit of climbing there, H. Well done! :handgestures-thumbup:

EDIT: Just watched your video, H. Very nice cruising pace on the DH. Thatt gives me lots of time to take in the trail, and all the surrounding sights. That's my kind of decent right there. And that cloudless sky.....LA has certainly gotten the air cleared up !
Hey, just out of curiosity, which Puma claims that territory? I know they pay lots of attention to the Pumas, and cougars, up your way!


I'm not sure which lion species we have up here. I do know that it's not the Mexican species that has a taste for human flesh, though. That species goes as far North as Orange County, from what I'm told. It can stay the hell away from here forever, as far as I'm concerned.


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Hawgzilla wrote:
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I'm not sure which lion species we have up here. I do know that it's not the Mexican species that has a taste for human flesh, though. That species goes as far North as Orange County, from what I'm told. It can stay the hell away from here forever, as far as I'm concerned.


that's not a separate species. might be a subspecies, but Puma concolor is such a wide-ranging species that there are bound to be some regional variations regardless of whether they qualify as a subspecies or not.

for that matter, the idea that some regional population alone "has a taste for human flesh" is more than just a little ludicrous. there are many other factors at play, and many of them far more important than which regional subpopulation a cat comes from.


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Mustela wrote:
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I'm not sure which lion species we have up here. I do know that it's not the Mexican species that has a taste for human flesh, though. That species goes as far North as Orange County, from what I'm told. It can stay the hell away from here forever, as far as I'm concerned.


that's not a separate species. might be a subspecies, but Puma concolor is such a wide-ranging species that there are bound to be some regional variations regardless of whether they qualify as a subspecies or not.

for that matter, the idea that some regional population alone "has a taste for human flesh" is more than just a little ludicrous. there are many other factors at play, and many of them far more important than which regional subpopulation a cat comes from.


There is a considerable gap between the mountain ranges within Orange County and Los Angeles. I feel that this gap is what keeps the sub-species at bay.

What I can say with certainty is that there has been more attacks on humans (and even some consumption) in recent times from the sub-species to the South of me than there has been up here. When a cat has been spotted anywhere around, it's well documented. Social media has been a true friend in this regard. I'm 100% positive that I've been watched many times by a cat as I rolled passed it's hiding place but for some reason, the cats up here are not known for thinking of humans as prey. But in Orange County and points South, watch out! I think I saw one once and I most certainly heard one growl on another occasion.


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I've heard that "P-51" will cross your "T's" and dot your "I's".................. 8-)

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norton55 wrote:
I've heard that "P-51" will cross your "T's" and dot your "I's".................. 8-)


I sure wouldn't want to be sliced up by that thing! :o


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Hawgzilla wrote:
There is a considerable gap between the mountain ranges within Orange County and Los Angeles. I feel that this gap is what keeps the sub-species at bay.

What I can say with certainty is that there has been more attacks on humans (and even some consumption) in recent times from the sub-species to the South of me than there has been up here. When a cat has been spotted anywhere around, it's well documented. Social media has been a true friend in this regard. I'm 100% positive that I've been watched many times by a cat as I rolled passed it's hiding place but for some reason, the cats up here are not known for thinking of humans as prey. But in Orange County and points South, watch out! I think I saw one once and I most certainly heard one growl on another occasion.


Highly doubtful it's even a subspecies, honestly. Just different subpopulations. They're not separated far enough, for long enough, for true speciation to occur.

Mtn lions essentially get habituated to thinking of people as food. It's a learning process that occurs when they're young. They do lots of watching and sizing up and they make a conscious decision that you look like a suitable meal.


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Mustela wrote:
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There is a considerable gap between the mountain ranges within Orange County and Los Angeles. I feel that this gap is what keeps the sub-species at bay.

What I can say with certainty is that there has been more attacks on humans (and even some consumption) in recent times from the sub-species to the South of me than there has been up here. When a cat has been spotted anywhere around, it's well documented. Social media has been a true friend in this regard. I'm 100% positive that I've been watched many times by a cat as I rolled passed it's hiding place but for some reason, the cats up here are not known for thinking of humans as prey. But in Orange County and points South, watch out! I think I saw one once and I most certainly heard one growl on another occasion.


Highly doubtful it's even a subspecies, honestly. Just different subpopulations. They're not separated far enough, for long enough, for true speciation to occur.

Mtn lions essentially get habituated to thinking of people as food. It's a learning process that occurs when they're young. They do lots of watching and sizing up and they make a conscious decision that you look like a suitable meal.


All I can say is that Los Angeles human flesh must not taste as good (to lions) as human flesh from points South. For that, I am thankful. Sorry Ray! :D


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Hawgzilla wrote:
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Hawgzilla wrote:
There is a considerable gap between the mountain ranges within Orange County and Los Angeles. I feel that this gap is what keeps the sub-species at bay.

What I can say with certainty is that there has been more attacks on humans (and even some consumption) in recent times from the sub-species to the South of me than there has been up here. When a cat has been spotted anywhere around, it's well documented. Social media has been a true friend in this regard. I'm 100% positive that I've been watched many times by a cat as I rolled passed it's hiding place but for some reason, the cats up here are not known for thinking of humans as prey. But in Orange County and points South, watch out! I think I saw one once and I most certainly heard one growl on another occasion.


Highly doubtful it's even a subspecies, honestly. Just different subpopulations. They're not separated far enough, for long enough, for true speciation to occur.

Mtn lions essentially get habituated to thinking of people as food. It's a learning process that occurs when they're young. They do lots of watching and sizing up and they make a conscious decision that you look like a suitable meal.


All I can say is that Los Angeles human flesh must not taste as good (to lions) as human flesh from points South. For that, I am thankful. Sorry Ray! :D


Don't have to apologize to me. I've become far too stringy and leathery to appeal to any cat!

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Ray, my chiropractor told me years ago, my joints were "gristle". I am now feeling the effects....... :x

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I don’t know what Hawg is babbling about with some kind of human flesh eating sub species. At first I thought he was joking, now I wish he was just for his sanity. ;)

While we are on the subject, this happened not too far from me this week.

Quite the large Tom and how lucky is she to have a pane of glass between them. It’s like your own private zoo out back.

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I did a little research on recent history mt lion attacks in California. There is reported attacks in Central and Northern Cali as well as Orange County to my South. Not much to report in my region though. Perhaps we Angelinos smell and taste bad to mt lions. I can live with that.


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Must not taste like chicken

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It’s only a matter of time with humans and cats crossing paths. If you look at all mountain Lion attacks the huge majority that end up attacking a human are young inexperienced cats. The older ones have figured out humans are not part of their diet. Young inexperienced cats followed by sick malnourished cats.


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