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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 5:03 pm 
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Due to new toys being cluttered by a few that has a lot more than the average couple of bikes, here's the collectors corner.

The rules are simple:

1) You can maximum post one bike per week.
2) New additions are to be made on Fridays.
3) All kinds of bikes are welcome
4) No garage queens
7) The rules will be enforced randomly and unfairly, by yours truly.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 7:11 pm 
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I like it :thumbsup:


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Ok, I'll start.

This is a rather basic, no nonsense, fairly common bike, and brutally good fun to ride.
My roadie time began in '92, on a Cannondale R400. At the time it was for my means insanely expensive.
After that I had various road bikes, from brands like Battaglin (top model from the nineties, horrible bike in all kinds of ways), Storck Vision (not a bad bike at all, in fact much like Cannondale). Then some years of MTB only.

The bike in question for this Friday, was the first road bike I bought after close to 2 decades of pretty much only riding MTB.
Back in the day I couldn't even afford to dream of one.

Cannondale R800, Shimano 600 Tricolore, Integrated brake/shifter, the works.
One of the stiffest frames ever made, with excellent stiffness to weight ratio for its time.
Still a great ride today, and like most of the other bikes I have, it turns heads of young guys that gets left in the dust.

Magura :)

.......yeah, I'll put the old Flite saddle back on it....


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:17 pm 
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I like your bike cave there guy.

Just wondering how collecting roadies compares to other styles. Do you get interest/shoutouts from people as you ride? You know from others that maybe had a bike just like it so they have a connection to it?
And what are prices like? The banana bike stuff over here has gone beyond stupid. Your road bikes weren’t cheap to start with so I’m curious of the values.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 11:40 pm 
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In the winter I alternate rides with working on the bikes. This one kept me busy last spring until the trails dried out. Started as a box of bike parts I found on Craigslist for $35.

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When I got the box home and sifted through the parts I staged the bike with a vintage crank and sprocket. Just needed a few things ironed out to make it rideable.

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This was a child’s sidewalk bike. Seat and bars attached with a small square headed bolt. I would have to use a different fork and fabricate a seat post to allow ape bars and a banana seat. Kids in the early 60s did exactly that before Huffy came out with the first muscle bike. They call them pig bikes. Some say pig means parts in garage. It fits.

The frame I’ve come to find is a Murray. Only way I can date it is by this jewel of a hub. 1958 Komet Super.

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I added a cheap springer fork, rusted to hell sissy bar, antique bike horn and a period correct wheelie bar made from the rear triangle of a ladies bike and an old school metal wheel skate. I’m looking for an old bourbon crate but for now I’m using an old coke crate for a billboard. The colors are right it’s just a little too soft. Tires are age cracked and slightly warped. Perfect. Topped off with a dead animal tail on the back

It’s one of the nicest riding bikes I have. Took these just last night.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2018 12:31 am 
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Mini, that is sweet.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2018 8:22 pm 
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Yeah, that's one sweet ride!
A pure toy. I like the idea of that.
I'd love to have a ride on that bike.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2018 8:37 pm 
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MiniTrail wrote:
I like your bike cave there guy.

Just wondering how collecting roadies compares to other styles. Do you get interest/shoutouts from people as you ride? You know from others that maybe had a bike just like it so they have a connection to it?
And what are prices like? The banana bike stuff over here has gone beyond stupid. Your road bikes weren’t cheap to start with so I’m curious of the values.


Yeah, people seem to gather that those are not ordinary bikes, some are asking here and there.
Most of the bikes I ride, are fairly rare, so it's yet to happen that somebody comes up to me and says "oh, I had a bike just like that".

Prices are not that bad, as most of what I'm interested in, are still regarded as old bikes, not classics.
The SilkRoad above has set me back less than $800 in total.
Even the super rare stuff is fairly reasonably priced from that period (1985-2007).
Mostly is a matter of actually finding what you want.

To me a bike has to first and foremost be a functional piece. So bikes from before 1985 are for the most part not really interesting, as they don't perform well.
When looking at the other end of the spectrum, nothing really happened to road bike the last decade or so, besides them getting a bit lighter, and the general quality dropping through the floor.


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The older road stuff has some nice bling on it. I love the old pointed acorn nuts and the pin stripes at the frame joins.

As for quality that’s what blew my mind on that Komet hub. The sweet hinged oiling port is a nice touch. The cages for the bearings are different from anything I’ve ever seen and the wheel rolls as free as a cage less hub. It has a band around the brake shoes to pull them back from the hub. Zero drag and butter smooth


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2018 10:05 pm 
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Sure the older road stuff has a very nice bling to it, super artistic lugs being one thing.
The point I made above was rather that it needs to work, and it needs to be able to cope with some 5000-7000km a year, sometimes far away from the workshop at home.
So either it must be super reliable, or it has to be something it's possible to find spares for, preferably both.
Most stuff from before 1985 offers neither. I also don't care for old shoes, but rather prefer modern carbon soles, modern closing systems, and so forth.
Most of the bikes I have, are picked for being very high quality, yet not hopelessly outdated.
The only exemption is the 1987 bike I use for L'Eroica races, that one has little going for it, other than being an old relic made of aluminum, with toe clips and shoes to match.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2018 10:13 pm 
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Really anyone that keeps the bikes going and doing what they were meant to do pleases me. Doesn’t matter what type it is.
My size allows me to ride the old boys bikes plus I have a connection to them. In my youth I was the paper boy out riding all over town before dawn year round practicing wheelies, foot in the front wheel stoppies and riding backwards. Old school stuff. Maybe when I grow up I’ll get big boy bikes


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2018 10:25 pm 
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Hmm, this growing up you talk about, is there a way to avoid it?

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2018 10:29 pm 
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On a different note.
On the bike you posted above, is it just me, or does it have a very low crank box?
Seems like the pedals would touch the ground if pedaling through a turn?

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I like big cranks. You’ll see an oversized one on the swing bike too. Easier on the knees, better for wheelies

Pedal strike is something you can adjust to. The fat bike and the flux both have low B.B. height and I’m not bothered by it. I would say your love of 24” hoops has you making the same adjustment. It’s second nature now.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2018 8:50 am 
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Not really. On my 24" rides, the BB is higher, and I run huge 24" tires, that ends up close to a 26".
Hence the question.
Given the wheelie bar the answer is obvious, I just didn't think of that. It's a wheelie machine, that doesn't come from 155mm cranks.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2018 1:09 pm 
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Aaaa, it's Friday again :o

This one is one of the more interesting bikes in the stable.
A Cannondale SR500, all original, mint condition.
A 1988 model, made in October 1987.
This one gets a limited amount of exercise, as it was bought for participating in L'Eroica races.

This will be the first season of such events for us, but the Mrs. also has an aluminum bike from 1988, so I look forward to yelling "aluminum is real!!!". :mrgreen:


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Ohhh, nice!


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I’m glad you did some closeup pics of the brakes. The old road bike calipers are sexy as hell.
Beautiful bike sir !


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2018 3:32 pm 
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Thanks!

I agree the old calipers are real nice. Personally I find the Dura Ace 7700 brakes to be the nicest.
.......well, beaten only by the 25th. anniversary edition.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2018 8:39 pm 
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Second oldest bike I own. Second oldest of the ones I can date properly anyway.

Edit, 68, not 67,fat finnered
68 Huffy rail. Prior owner took it apart, powder coated (facepalm) the bars, sissy and fender then put it in storage. Lost interest in it and lost the wheelset (double facepalm).

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Still it wasn’t in bad shape for a 50 year old boys bike so I found replacements for the fenders and bars but not the sissybar. Added a front wheel from a GT speed, Lester rear mag to get it riding. Everybody loves a purple muscle bike. Original paint rider.

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Just 3 weeks ago when I took the slingshot in to lace up the drum brake it inherited the old 5 speed rear wheel. Shifter is functional again. I need to rub out the paint and detail it. Rides first, details second. It gets the most shoutouts of any bike I own.

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I have the original shift knob. I just like this old GM muscle car 4 speed knob better. Bike rides really well and the long wheelbase makes it very comfortable for a 20” bike.


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Impressive to have a bike that old, in good ride-able condition, and close to original.
I just love seeing bikes like that, far away from what I usually engage with, yet very interesting.
What do those things go for in your neck of the woods?

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It’s not a cheap hobby anymore. I’m very lucky to have picked up what I have reasonably. Not cheap but reasonable. I could sell the shifter and console for what I paid for the bike.

Here’s one to watch. It doesn’t have the tall sissy bar, shifter or console but it does have a nice repop two color seat and original wheels.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1968-Huffy-Rai ... 2882118185

I like some of the stuff I see on your side of the pond. The European banana bikes have a unique style and would be rare as hell over here.


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The European banana bikes are rare super rare here as well!
As a kid I don't recall ever seeing one.

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Here's my 1992 Marin Muirwoods. I did a single speed conversion years ago and it's kind of my cruiser bike.

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As usual, I added spare/old parts like the saddle and the headset. A friend built the wheel set with Surly hubs and rasta nipples. I still love the geometry.

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TY for playing norton! Was feeling like a 2 man show in here. And with real MTB content even.

Looks like a good old friend to keep around


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An old friend for sure. :D

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That's a real nice Muirwoods you got there Norton!
Back in the day, I sold a few of those.
Yours is nicely tuned, without making it a Frankenstein bike. The original Ritchey headsets were junk anyway ;)

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Aaaa, it's Friday again :o

My Marin Pine FRS from 1992.
It's heavy, it's a noodle, the suspension stinks, it's maintenance heavy, spares are impossible to find, and it rides like a truck on flat tires.

.......and it's great fun, so it gets ridden rather often.

Oh and I forgot, Shimano DX is not all that neither :D

Picked it up for $100 this January, including a huge pile of spares.
Cleaned it up, replaced the saddle and the brake pads, and went riding.

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Magura wrote:
It's heavy, it's a noodle, the suspension stinks, it's maintenance heavy, spares are impossible to find, and it rides like a truck on flat tires.

.......and it's great fun, so it gets ridden rather often.

:lol:
Sounds like me describing my Alenax. I get it


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Magura.......sweet. 8-)

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