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PostPosted: Tue Aug 27, 2019 3:14 am 
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Back of the Flux felt weird tonight so I stopped to look it over. Play in the pivots. Figured it was due for a rebuild being 5 years old this November.
Got home and put a torque wrench on it. Loose af. Snugged the two dw link bolts and she’s good for another 5. 8-)


I've got the same thing going on with one side of the upper pivot on my FEX. It has to be checked after any considerable ride. It's never super loose, just a 1/4 turn or so and no, Loctite did not help.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 27, 2019 3:15 am 
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Which Loctite did you try?


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This happened once before about 3 years ago. I kept an eye on it and it never repeated so I guess I got too lazy.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 27, 2019 12:28 pm 
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Magura wrote:
Which Loctite did you try?


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Blue. The same stuff that bike bolts come coated in.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 27, 2019 1:43 pm 
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That doesn't work.
You gotta use the red high strength one, and just not overdo it.
Blue keeps things from rattling apart, red locks bolts.

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Magura wrote:
That doesn't work.
You gotta use the red high strength one, and just not overdo it.
Blue keeps things from rattling apart, red locks bolts.

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Interesting. I have heard that the red stuff is better but I have also heard that it should not be used on things that need to be periodically removed. I've never seen red used on bike bolts.

Will it be difficult to back the bolt out when I need to check the pivot bearings?


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 27, 2019 2:15 pm 
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If you don't overdo it, it's not an issue.
If it turns out to be an issue, heating the bolt takes care of it.
I'm using the red Loctite on regular basis, unless it's something that needs to be serviced often.
In that case it's titanium bolts and blue loctite.
Make a quick experiment with scrap parts, to get a feel for how it works.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 27, 2019 3:45 pm 
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^ great idea


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Magura wrote:
If you don't overdo it, it's not an issue.
If it turns out to be an issue, heating the bolt takes care of it.
I'm using the red Loctite on regular basis, unless it's something that needs to be serviced often.
In that case it's titanium bolts and blue loctite.
Make a quick experiment with scrap parts, to get a feel for how it works.

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Run a Grand Experiment?! Not a chance. I just want the damned bolt to stop backing out. ;)


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Brown Mountain/El Prieto this morning. Left early to beat the heat. Had a wonderful time. Mostly empty trails. Saw fresh bear tracks on the way down that were not there on the way up. And sure enough, I caught up to it and it bailed of the trail and scaled a vertical cliff to get away. Bikes are FUN!!!


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5.15 am here, and about to get out for a first try out around the Preserve Trail near my house... not ridden for 3 weeks, and it should fun :) My oncologist told me to ride longer and less intensely for a while... sounds like a good plan :)
Just waiting for it to get a little lighter out...


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Rockerc wrote:
5.15 am here, and about to get out for a first try out around the Preserve Trail near my house... not ridden for 3 weeks, and it should fun :) My oncologist told me to ride longer and less intensely for a while... sounds like a good plan :)
Just waiting for it to get a little lighter out...


RC, obviously, F.I. is gentle but this past Spring we rode Honeybee and that was actually pretty darn fun. Fast gentle climb up and a nice long coaster ride coming back down.


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I like Honeybee, but it's a drive from my house... from here I can be at the Preserve in 5 mins or so, on the bike, and there's quite a few options from there. I can be up on this side of the Tortolitas in 15 mins or so, but that climb once up there is a bit beyond me just now! Soon :)

I've been riding over by Honeybee since before all the trails were put in, and there was only the jeep roads and a few pirate trails that me and my old mate Max had a hand in 'developing'... since the newer ones have been blazed, it is pretty fun. One of my favorite long rides, what we called the Big Loop, was to start on my side of the Torts, take dirt roads that are no blacktop to Cougar Canyon, long slog up the jeep road to the windmill at the top, back down a cow trail we developed and called Maus Trail, around what is now part of the Honeybee system and up Crow Wash past the old mine to the top of the pass above Goat Corral. Then a super fast DH down the bumpy jeep road to Goat corral, then down Wild Burro all the way back to where the Ritz is now... That was a good ride! You knew you'd done it after! Unfortunately now the newer residents closed Cougar Canyon access, so that killed the loop pretty much. I do know a bushwhack thru to come up another way, but it has some pretty nasty wash riding to avoid some private land...
I used to lead quite a few rides up there, me and Max explored a lot of places in those parts :) sadly Max is no longer with us.


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Local trail night. Great conditions then sloppy in the swamp as expected. Once I got through the muck the goldenrod was so high I couldn’t pass. Loop turned into an out and back.

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Magura wrote:
That doesn't work.
You gotta use the red high strength one, and just not overdo it.
Blue keeps things from rattling apart, red locks bolts.

Magura :)


Yep, and don’t be fooled when picking it out. Both tubes are red, makes sense huh? I never understood why they don’t color code their tubes.


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Looks like quite an adventure Mini.


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Nah not really but the weather is getting right for more ridding. Love cooler fall temps


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DIRTJUNKIE wrote:
Magura wrote:
That doesn't work.
You gotta use the red high strength one, and just not overdo it.
Blue keeps things from rattling apart, red locks bolts.

Magura :)


Yep, and don’t be fooled when picking it out. Both tubes are red, makes sense huh? I never understood why they don’t color code their tubes.


That I think I can explain.
It's because it's a product that when it was first put on the market, was to be used exclusively by men.
Roughly 10% of all men are color blind, so they wrote the color on the bottle.


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Magura wrote:
DIRTJUNKIE wrote:
Magura wrote:
That doesn't work.
You gotta use the red high strength one, and just not overdo it.
Blue keeps things from rattling apart, red locks bolts.

Magura :)


Yep, and don’t be fooled when picking it out. Both tubes are red, makes sense huh? I never understood why they don’t color code their tubes.


That I think I can explain.
It's because it's a product that when it was first put on the market, was to be used exclusively by men.
Roughly 10% of all men are color blind, so they wrote the color on the bottle.


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LOL! Loctite is a man's tool. Should not be used by women at any time. ;)


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I call bullshit. We don’t read either


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Having the color of the liquid written on the bottle, at least leaves the option of reading it open.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 29, 2019 3:47 pm 
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I stop reading at loctite


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:laughing-rolling:


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MiniTrail wrote:
I stop reading at loctite



Exactly! :laughing-rolling:


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I want to say that 20 years back (or so) the round bottle size like eye drops come in were red and blue like the liquid inside, but that might have been the Permatex brand.
Looking online, the Permatex threadlock products seem to mostly be in blue bottles with the label matching what's inside so I might be remembering wrong.

Edit: The Permatex orange looks promising. Supposed to be strong like the red but removable like blue.


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Kronk wrote:
I want to say that 20 years back (or so) the round bottle size like eye drops come in were red and blue like the liquid inside, but that might have been the Permatex brand.
Looking online, the Permatex threadlock products seem to mostly be in blue bottles with the label matching what's inside so I might be remembering wrong.

Edit: The Permatex orange looks promising. Supposed to be strong like the red but removable like blue.


I remember the Permatex square bottles [not round] coming color coded. Could be wrong, but that’s what I remember from some 30 years ago.


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When I was young, we didn't have Loctite. We used to just smoke a Capstan Full Strength Navy cut and then spit on the threads...


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Finally found the time to get out to Letchworth. Been wanting to go all summer it just didn’t work out.

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Did not suck. They seem to have a trail doctor working there now. Some of the changes are welcomed like rerouting the trail around sections that were never dry or bridges over some gully crossings. I’m just worried about them making it too accessible. I like it rough and void of people.
Edit: The pivot didn’t lose torque after 4 hour ride with my pudgy bod bouncing on it the whole time


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Nice trail. 8-)

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Thanks for the photos Mini. A bit jealous I never got to ride there after so many times as a kid going there on camping trips. Love that place. Does that trail go by any of the falls?


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