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PostPosted: Tue Mar 12, 2019 1:56 pm 
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As some of you may know, I have followed the development of the bicycle helmet, and in particular, the development of irrational fear that huge numbers of uninformed people consider "common sense".

A couple of very interesting personalities in this, would be Chris Boardman and Mikael Colville-Andersen.
Neither has a dog in the helmet race, and both a cyclist safty advocates.

It's been a while since Ilast took a look at what's going in the debate, as it is long past the poin where it was a rational debate, but rather had turned into a mix of poorly informed opinions based on irrational fear, and the outcome of lobbyism and marketing.
I just stumbled on this little bit, that I take some here would find interesting, and a lot of people could get a starting point to form an informed opinion.

http://www.copenhagenize.com/2017/01/bi ... nmark.html

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 12, 2019 3:28 pm 
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Been riding bikes for 58 years and I started wearing a helmet in the mid 90's. All I can say is, I've had my bell rung a couple of times riding both mountain and road bikes. A helmet saved my head. For me, wearing a helmet is based on experience not scientific data.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 12, 2019 3:53 pm 
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Forgive me for this one ;)

You assume a helmet saved your head.
I'm not saying it didn't, you just have nothing to compare it to.

This is exactly what the above article is about: assumption based on anything but evidence.
Given the large number of bicycle helmets being worn, there should have been a massive decrease in head injuries.
Gues what?
There isn't ;)

As I've pointed out earlier, and what is also implied in the article, this relates to casual riding. Full on MTB riding is a differen t ballgame.
Having said that, the current crop of cycling helmets, offers very little protection in that case, unless you look towards the DH variety.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 12, 2019 9:06 pm 
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I do not always wear a helmet. One of my cycling pleasures is what I refer to as a ‘ball cap’ ride. Doesn’t mean I don’t do things that I might regret it just means I’m out wandering and accept the consequences should they happen.
Do what you feel is right. I’m good either way

Pulling my kayak back in 2010 doing a dangerous selfie without a lid :o

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 11:41 pm 
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Magura, as a former EMT in a past life, my initial comment was based on this......https://www.verywellhealth.com/coup-con ... es-3157066
Helmet's temper the initial impact by spreading the point of contact over a slightly wider area. One could argue that football head injuries shouldn't be as severe as they are, but getting hit in the head with a battering ram vs. hitting the deck with your head (point of contact) are way different in severity.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 19, 2019 4:47 pm 
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That lack of lessened head injuries is likely due to the rather underwhelming safety test standards that these bicycle helmets are held to.
Even with the flimsy protection they DO afford, I am a true connoisseur of blunt force trauma to my skull, ( I will 'prolly be wearing a druel-bucket around my neck in the next 5-10 years,) And as such, I know from decades of personal experience that some of the helmet-to-rocks blows to my head that I've taken would have been MUCH worse had I not been wearing my mtb helmet.
I don't really think of it as a "helmet" so much, but rather as an ultralight and stylish piece of headwear that I feel kinda nekkid without.
And then, after all, how about the CHILDREN? What effect upon the CHILDREN is the sight of adults riding bare-headed going to be?
After all, first and foremost, we MUST think first, and last, about the CHILDREN!

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 19, 2019 6:21 pm 
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Mine have deflected having a gash in my scalp a few times. Regardless of the protection from a minor hit, gash, or scrape, I know of ten or more people who have gotten knocked out and a few with concussion. They can't do much about that sudden stop to your brain.
Most of us don't expect bike helmets to save us from concussions or severe head/brain trauma, though there are some folks who have an expectation that one will save them from any head injury possible.


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